She may be trying to open a door. The Internet has helped many of us to come to a ‘better understanding’. If you are looking to rebuild that relationship, write back to her, not about doctrinal issues but the things she missed, children, progress etc, 45 years is a long time.
Anony Mous
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Any reason for my mother and I not to go back, this is one of them.
by Truth and Justice inhi to all, i have been away from the organization since the 1980's and as it seems, i haven't missed a thing.
i have seen a deterioration take place that is continually getting more dramatic than i have ever seen.
the thumbing down or the minimizing of spiritual food is reason enough that people are starving for something good.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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Again, renaming a few things because they got in legal trouble doesn’t change the fact, you said it yourself
many are coming back to be able to talk to family
And there is the problem. What if you don’t want to be associated with a non-Christian cult? What if you are member of another church? This seems like pure emotional blackmail to boost their numbers.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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@liam: What evidence do you have that they truly changed their ways. The disfellowshipping arrangement is still in place, the 2 witness rule is still in place, social control is still a thing. Can you honestly tell the elders that you are posting here on apostate websites and get away with it?
A few minor adjustments in the style and dress is insufficient, they have always done that, as long as it attracts some followers.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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@Liam: Read some of MY recent posts please. Elders and other hardcore JW are TODAY screwing with people's lives.
I agree many have 'slowed down' since COVID, but COVID is only 4 years ago, not 25-35y as you seem to imply.
My oldest is 18, my second oldest is 13, the latter is definitely being impacted by strict JW rules and threats of disfellowshipping and fear getting kicked out of the house if they don't toe the line. The older one was taken from me 18 years ago by a cabal of JW elders and family and to date, they don't know we found each other recently - that is what a JW today does to me, I know who knows, most are still an elder today, 15 elders across at least 3 congregations knew, I'm sure there was a detailed record that traveled with me to the next 3 congregations as I was "counseled" when I got to my new congregation about my divorce.
Various 'pioneer' wives, people that were supposed to be my "family" and raised me, none of them have come forward, some of them died taking the secret to their graves, I was 5 years an active JW ministerial servant on my way to elder AND THEY KEPT IT A SECRET to avoid the 'scandal' because some uber JW's kid or their parents or the elders may have lost some privileges for a few months.
They didn't tell me when I was a JW, when I left the JW or when I got another child, they know who I am, they have my contact information, legal-technically I am not a disfellowshipped or disassociated JW, so even that is not an excuse.
A few years ago I posted letters from people that are going through various issues - whether it was ectopic pregnancy or being gay and those were letters to Bethel, read them, that's still how these tribunals are conducted - a 16 or 17yo was asked whose dick did you suck, ectopic pregnancy what does it mean, why didn't you trust in Jehovah and DIE. I was given the same spiel when it came to my 13yo child and blood, I just had a conversation with supposedly very active JW that believe miscarriages are because YOU as a parent did something wrong. Have they changed over the last 10 years, made apologies, set the record straight?
You have your blinders on, people are still being affected, people are still being sidelined and disfellowshipped and shunned and abused. See the arrests they just made in Pennsylvania, what was it 18 people that are active pedo's.
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"Mailing Tracts" from 1919
by vienne infor a research project, i need clear scans of all of the 1919 small-sized tracts meant for through the mail witnessing.
can you help?
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You mean these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116414079420
Try archive.org, Library of Congress may have them as well, although you may have to physically find them or ask a librarian.
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The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.
rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.
while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.
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How about this: The King of the North has been Trump, it was Trump this whole time. Think about it: he has been a celebrity rich person with tentacles into the UN through his NY and and worldwide real estate holdings pretty much since the ending of the Cold War. He’s a singular person and not a list of ever changing figure heads like the US Government. He is about to bring about real peace and security and he has supernatural protections from bullets and assassinations.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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I think the problem in (many) Christian religions is to attribute omnipotence to God, as if he has the capacity to solve the problem of evil and the second problem is an afterlife that is always good, regardless of your choices.
The Jewish view and some Christians also believe that evil only exists within us (humans) and it is a choice we make and the stacking of evil things brings about misery for many. And there is only 1 life and you have to live it to the best of your abilities.
Yes, that places "God" as an omnipotent self-absorbed bully outside of the realm of religion and puts God more as being the collective idea of what we consider to be good, which can only come in hindsight. I like this idea better that God exists in our history, but it evolved from within our societies and worshipping a god is living up to the ideals of that society. Hence why the Bible is really a mis-mash of various Gods with different personalities over the ages.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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Sounds like Liam is in a spiritually weak congregation. Just needs 1 shakeup from a strict CO and how many people would fall in line? That's what the GB is most concerned about, they don't care you have 200 people in your congregation, they only need the ones that are contributing and those are the strict ones that lay the heavy load on others.
Read some of my and other stories here from the past. Not even that long ago, my two eldest wear the scars and one of them is not even an adult yet, the other just barely. You think that doesn't happen in your congregation? You have blinders.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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@liam: your experience depends strongly on your congregation. Even back in the day, the foreign language congregations were like that, but there are plenty of others that are still very strict.
Also, you are speaking as an inactive youngster, once you get deeper into it, get older, speak against the organization, commit a “sin”, your experience will change quickly.
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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If you don’t see what the problem is (according to JW) perhaps read the lyrics: